My experience with real world autopilots has been consistently good and definitely on the level of simulator autopilots if I may make the comparison in the reverse direction for once. The first steps are PPAA -> Power Performance Analysis Action to achieve safe single-engine flight; next, we want to restore system redundancy to the degree possible while of course not forgetting to navigate and under coordination with ATC to manoeuvre to a position from which, after re-programming the FMC, a single engine approach can be made to the departure airport, if this is possible from a meteorological and operational point of view. Finally, Holger Kistermann. It issued a directive ordering that airlines check them for faults. You took the time to be here, we want to get to know you. They don't add air to the cabin.Kevin Hall. Full set of ground equipment for each aircraft type, including passenger servicing vehicles. Quite simple: The better is always the enemy of the good. There is an amusing aspect to the image update of the NGX in the external view. I don't think those will cause the horn to go off. Message me if you would like to share stories/progress. Oski: Well, it would be easy to hand out superlatives. But nothing conclusive can be said yet in this respect since the shorter variants have not been released. I have to say, though, that I dont have any real aircraft experience to compare to, nor do I have the time to climb into one of the fixed-based simulators in my vicinity. Nothing to do with the ALT horn going off Paul.The horn will sound if the Cabin Altitude reaches 10,000.That would rarely happen in the RW.Fred. Yes, MLD Scenery develops payware products for sale at SIMMARKET https://secure.simmarket.com/mld-sc, when is this gonna be launched, it is gonna cost money? I say this because if the 2D FMC is on a secondary screen, you cannot use keyboard entry you can neither use the tab key nor activate the input line in the scratch pad. All times are GMT. Applying for medicals to start PPL soon. Does the PMDG fly precisely? All trademarks are property of their respective owners in the US and other countries. The engine sound, on the other hand, comes across as quite convincing. Hey I managed to taxi to the runway with an open L2 door in the 777 just noticed it Create an account to follow your favorite communities and start taking part in conversations. By Its great that this is possible today. Leaving recirculation fans OFF would not prevent pressurisation. PMDG Simulations Official youTube content to aide new PMDG 737 pilots in getting the most from their purchase. All references in the article lead to the original articles in German. Cant seem to find anything other than the P3D one, This alarm is not the AP disconnect, it's different. And this is indeed the case! Posts that are unsigned will be quietly removed without comment by the moderators, so to make your life easy- we recommend enabling your forum signature so that you never need to remember. The Federal Aviation Administration (FAA) on Thursday warned of a risk that pilots and other crew members could lose consciousness if the cabin altitude switches failed. But please give PMDG a bit of time its not even two weeks since the release yet. PMDGs customized, flight model with enhanced physics augmentation. As I have already indicated, the visuals of the 737 NG exterior model are as a whole correct and feature many details. The usability of the FMC on multi-monitor systems is bad to put it mildly. PMDG enable their customers to equip their aircraft as they please the real aircraft is available in different configurations, and the same is possible in the simulator. If you consider that the database consists of several tens of thousands of procedures, you can certainly imagine that there can always be a flaw somewhere. By the way: This is the second part of our three-part 737 NG review special. I hope PMDG for those who use multiple set up monitors and for more realistic the situation add the First Officer 2D Panel as well. Originally posted by Extra300driver View Post. With this present product, however, the shadows are very few and far between. I think I just forgot to turn the L and R recirc fans back on after engine start. There is no external tool for this, everything can be configured directly from the Flight Simulator session. Sign up for notifications from Insider! But this is in fact where one of the great strengths of the NGX may lie. From what i can remember L and R packs were set to auto, ISO valve auto, bleed 1 & 2 on and APU bleed off and no illuminations out of the ordinary. Which of the implementations conveys the most realistic feeling of space? All of this, in combination with the high-resolution textures and the well-executed model, gives the aircraft an incredibly realistic effect. But they do occur: In the PMDG forums, more than a few customers have been puzzled by sudden crashes not crashes from the cruise flight levels but ones of a technical nature. I stoppped the first flight and later did another that went the same way. I went to my doors page on the fmc and found that cargo hatch was left open and was unable to close it in the air. What use is the most detailed systems simulation if I have to click through three sub-panels in critical phases of flight with high workload? This is not what the FCOM describes. PMDG has managed to implement a very exact simulation of the Boeing 737 NG for FSX that does not leave much to be desired. In addition to the performance problems on older systems, which were to be expected, there were also reports of inexplicable crashes CTDs and freezes. But an expert in the sense of the question you certainly dont have to be that. We had already presented it on simFlight.de, but we would rather mention it again in case someone hasnt seen it yet. Currently studying Aeronautical Engineering at Sheffield Hallam University (UK). Some of these crashes are even accompanied by a blue screen. Oski: I hope it wasnt me who made that claim. I doubt, however, whether the majority of simmers will do this and in my view, it isnt necessary. Virtual cockpit model, with ultra high detail textures, 3D rendering and reflective properties. Holding entries are another sticking point for a precise FMC simulation. Its the same sound as the takeoff config alarm, but I get it when landing. But the EGPWS, for instance, definitely deserves a mention. No ethical discussions about Piracy (mentioning that an add-on is worth the price is fine, but don't tell anybody directly to buy it instead), 3. Of course, visual treats like these have their price. Let me put it like this: The NGX autopilot makes about the same errors as a real autopilot and to a degree that is definitely justifiable and does not to be corrected. Fully customized system simulation for all major and minor aircraft systems and components. The FAA requires every airplane with a pressurized cabin to include a system that warns the flight crew of cabin depressurization. There is always something that hums, buzzes or beeps. The basic concept takes some getting used to at first but should for the most part be familiar from previous PMDG products (particularly the MD-11). However, I have to deduct more than a few points for one of my favourite procedures, the automatic go-around. Each configuration can be tuned further to ones hearts content. In such conditions, a flow experience will never come about. For PMDG, this is already the second time they have created a Boeing 737 NG: In 2003, they released the first version, which was implemented for FS2002 and FS2004. Better solutions to this are possible, as A2A, for example, have demonstrated strikingly with their sound system. Even a few years ago, flight instructors in airliner flight schools would have shaken their heads at the mere thought. Holger: In spite of everything, we find ourselves in a two-dimensional world: We sit at a computer screen and try to operate a simulated three-dimensional world using a mouse. Not too lazy and not too agile. It makes the transition to single-engine flight much too harmless. It repeatedly happened to me that the flight path displayed on the ND contained inconsistencies. Holger: I recently talked to a flightsim-crazy airline pilot it might even have been you, Oski. And at this point, I again need to make an important digression: As usual, I have read the whole spectrum of assessments in the PMDG forums from too sensitive to too sluggish. PMDG Boeing 737900 v3.0.63 February 25, 2023 145 Comments SimPlaza Recommended, MSFS 2020 Aircraft, PMDG Info Note: You can download the PMDG Operations Center here or from our own upload here to get liveries for this aircraft and update any older version of this aircraft instead of downloading it here. But I think if you press trip reset on the air con panel it should extinguish Ryzen 9 5900X, RX 6900XT, 32GB DDR4 RAM @3600MHz, 4k. He is now our man for the fine details, and the focus of his assessment will lie on visuals, haptics and sound. Your cabin altitude is 13000ft. I dont think much of the superlatives that are so commonly used today. Join the flight experience and to troubleshoot for CTDs OOM Crash Free operation of FSX a.s.o. However, it said that in September, an unnamed airplane operator reported that both switches had failed on three different 737 models it tested. Press J to jump to the feed. In the case of the PMDG this applies to the convincing flight dynamics. And during the subsequent autobrake 1 deceleration I had to intervene manually to leave the runway in a reasonably sensible fashion. With winglets or without. That this is also the case here is an absolutely positive indication for me that the aerodynamic fundamentals have been implemented realistically. document.getElementById( "ak_js_1" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); document.getElementById( "ak_js_2" ).setAttribute( "value", ( new Date() ).getTime() ); The PMDG 737-900 for Microsoft Flight Simulator, my comment does not break any of the above rules, Always protect yourself when downloading Torrents, Flightbeam Studios NZAA Auckland International Airport v1.2.0, iniBuilds NZQN Queenstown Airport v1.0.1, iniBuilds KOKC Will Rogers World / Oklahoma City Airport v1.0.2, WorldSky Studios WIMM Kualanamu International Airport v1.0.0, IndiaFoxtEcho AmericaClass LHA Ships v1.1.0, Airwil Sceneries RPME Bancasi / Butuan Airport v2.0.0, Airwil Sceneries RPMG Dipolog Airport v1.3.0, BEAUTIFUL MODEL of the WORLD KMRY Monterey Regional Airport v1.2.0, BEAUTIFUL MODEL of the WORLD LEPP Pamplona Airport v1.0.1 (New Build), 1. You will find the signature editor on the ACCOUNT tab, about half way down the page. For FSX, this is a real quantum leap and the system is perfect for the PMDG 737 NGX. Oski: I dont even have to go that far. Updated 737 options packages reflecting operational improvements and changes to the global 737 fleet. Great review, a pleasure to read. Frank Schmidts review of the Diamond Katana might have something to do with that I now have an i7 Sandy Bridge processor (2600K) that runs at up to 3.8 GHz. Should the autopilot control be realistic or simplified? i just diverted my flight after 30mins so i could shut the aircraft down. This is already complex enough but can be carried out flawlessly with the present add-on. There would be an audible alarm, though not cabin alt horn, but master caution alarm, if UNSCHED DES is present. The present 737 interpretation from PMDG, to me, is the climax of this development (for the present?). Interchangeable equipment options for cockpit instrumentation The PMDG flies great whether by hand or by autopilot. Do this by clicking the username pull-down at the top right, then selecting "User Settings." All of this at unbelievably high prices but this is an indulgence die-hard 737 simmers will grant themselves. I dont know. Three companies are currently competing for the implementation of the best Boeing 737 NG simulation: iFly and PMDG and strictly speaking Ariane, too, though the latter product has been on the market for a few years and can no longer keep up with the other two. An impressive experience! Note: This is ONLY to be used to report spam, advertising, and problematic (harassment, fighting, or rude) posts. There is a 12,000 foot mod. Stefan: As a longtime model maker I can answer this with a clear and I admit slightly surprised yes. In this situation, the thrust should drop away almost immediately. This is very inconvenient and detracts from the overall impression. Sign up for a new account in our community. This page was generated at 03:28. It is the same loud noise as the beep alarm that sounds when you aren't in takeoff configuration. This page was generated at 03:28. Here at the Benzinger home, it is customary that I build a Revell model kit for every new FS add-on I buy and in this case, the PMDG model clearly beats it! In the final evaluation, though, my opinion is that the NGX is still comparable to other complex aircraft add-ons. You can also tell it would spread a Fire fast in any crash if ON. At this point I do not want to enter into the tiresome discussion about different V-speeds, for instance between TOPCAT and FMC. Edit: page 31 of the introduction PDF I turned off the autopilot, but I cant silence the alarm. As a result of this, the A pillar in these airplanes is more inclined, and the bulge does not remind me as much of the nose of my former Latin teacher as the one in the PMDG. Your engine bleeds aren't on. All rights reserved. <> The image galleries on airliners.net dont really help either, because many of the images have been post-processed and stretched. Their failure could mean that cabin oxygen levels fall dangerously low, the FAA said. He will tell us how realistic PMDG has managed to make the systems simulation of the 737 NG. Or if I adjust the bank limiter instead of the heading bug? CRZ alt and DES alt was set correctly in the pressurization panel so what else should I be checking? There is an Alt horn shut-off button its on one of the pressurization panels, if you press that one you will get rid of the alarm sound for the rest of the flight. Oski, how does the NGX run for you? Free customer support both at our customer forum and directly from our support team if necessary. PMDG should really have deserved this distinction, which unlike the simFlight awards is awarded by the reviewers. Another example: The elevators have trim tabs with their own animations at extreme deflections, they move in opposite directions. This is one of the few rigid rules that we enforce regularly. No requests for older versions of an add-on, this is pointless almost always due to new features/fixes. In this way, I can at least compare between similar aircraft. The US aviation watchdog has instructed airlines to inspect a pair of pressure switches found on all Boeing 737 airplanes over concerns that their failure could cause onboard oxygen levels to fall dangerously low. Since 1997, we have asked users to sign their real name, first and last, to all posts in the PMDG forum. 4 0 obj I have the same issue and cant figure it out either. Should steel brakes or carbon brakes be simulated? Valve Corporation. Also, set the bleed valves to auto and the packs to auto. Can the PMDG be flown by the numbers? After further investigation and analysis, however, the airplane manufacturer and the FAA concluded in May that "the failure rate of both switches is much higher than initially estimated, and therefore does pose a safety issue.". This assessment depends on important factors particularly the personal controller settings. Oski: Objection, your honour! Add to this the effects on flight characteristics, systems, gauges, and so on and so on to tell the truth, I am amazed that a simulation of this depth and visual quality is even possible on a single PC. We use cookies to improve your experience on our site and to show you personalised advertising. The Boeing 737 NGX is certainly not an airplane that can be recommended in good faith to an absolute novice. Giuseppe Nelva We start a release, the DHC-1 Chipmunk, which was launched by Aeroplane Heaven. You took the time to be here, we want to get to know you. You may have to register before you can post: click the register On one of my test flights from Munich to Palma de Mallorca I had made an error in the fuel calculation and still had quite a lot of fuel in the tanks during the approach. In the PMDG, the whole panel is somehow less wide, everything in the VC seems more confined. In the case of cockpit views, I am of the same mind frame as Captain Oski, I prefer 2D panels and was pleased to hear of the inclusion of a 2D panel but disappointed that some things were left out of it. In the real world, after all, engineers go to incredible lengths to create a human-machine interface that is as optimal as possible this is true in many fields, but particularly in aviation. This is because, strangely enough, the throttle quadrant does not have its own 2D panel. The bottom line is that PMDG has released a truly excellent product! And so also the FMC of the NGX has a hiccup from time to time. What is that sound for and how do I fix it/turn it off? In the system requirements, PMDG even writes something about i5 processors .In my view, that should be considered a warning. You also have the option to opt-out of these cookies. Where high complexity and exact design meet, even a capable family PC can reach its limits. I probably wont even install the PMDG on my good old dual-core Vista 32-bit PC from Aldi (though other PMDG aircraft and even the FlightSimLabs Concorde run quite acceptably on it). <>>> and much much more! Holger: Oski, you fly with a multi-monitor setup, right? Show a video/pictures of all the panels. You have duel bleed trip off and ZERO duct pressure therefore not pressurizing. The exterior and interior model are based on the original blueprints from Seattle. Obviously, at least Im not the only one with a preference for 2D panels. You didn't set the bleeds and/or packs correctly after your engine start. The hydraulic cylinders of the slaps and flaps are also modelled in 3D. It is the same loud noise as the beep alarm that sounds when you aren't in takeoff configuration. In this respect, the NGX is a new benchmark by which many future developers as well as future alternatives to FSX as a platform will be measured. No doubt there will always be some room for discussion whether the trim sound, say, is too quiet or whether the spoiler extension on landing sounds quite so or a bit different. % Note: To update navigation data, you can use the Navigraph PMDG 737 NavData from this post (pmdg_737_msfs_XXXX.rar). Holger: but the virtual cockpit is of course completely sufficient! No requests for links to similar sites like SimPlaza, 8. 1) SIGN YOUR POSTS. Movieman162, January 8, 2012 in PMDG 737NGX | 737NGXu, HiI have just done two flight in the 737-800NGX Winglets aircraft and on both at one point or another in climb i got the cabin altitude warning horn. To guarantee some ahhhs and ohhhs from the FSX community, PMDG has collaborated closely with Boeing. We also use third-party cookies that help us analyze and understand how you use this website. <>/Font<>/XObject<>/ProcSet[/PDF/Text/ImageB/ImageC/ImageI] >>/Annots[ 23 0 R] /MediaBox[ 0 0 612 792] /Contents 4 0 R/Group<>/Tabs/S/StructParents 0>> Simply ignoring the alarm will lead to an almost certain crash, as shown by flight Helios 522, which never pressurised and crashed due to fuel exhaustion. You will become aware of many details you would not previously have paid attention to. If there is sufficient customer demand, the ER variants of the -700 and -900 may follow, but a final decision on this has not been taken. The FAA didn't say there had been any in-flight failures of the switches. Thanks. On the other hand, it is not a simple matter to mix the various sounds correctly. If it breaks any of the above rules or can be easily answered by our FAQ, it will be deleted. If this is your first visit, be sure to check out the FAQ by clicking the link above. Stefan: No, on the contrary: To start the engines, youhaveto switch to the VC to open the fuel valves. The FAA said in the order Thursday that if both switches failed, the warning system would not activate if the cabin altitude exceeded 10,000 feet at which point oxygen levels on board could become dangerously low and cause flight crews to lose consciousness, it said. My specs are: Intel Core i5-2400 CPU 3.1GHz, 8 GB RAM, Windows 7 64-bit and nVidia GeForce GTX470 with 2 displays or one display for the 2D panel and a projector for the external view. Check if the packs are turned on. No attacking of other commenters (including insulting, threatening, trolling, baiting, flaming), 2. What I observe time and again is that there are suitable and less suitable configurations. Full featured failures simulation to cover nearly all QRH scenarios as well as real-world mean time to failure simulations model. Stefan: A few months ago I treated myself to a new computer because I finally wanted to max out FSX and be prepared for products like the PMDG 737NG. #1 Tobble 11. . There is one thing you simply have to realize today: Given the high memory requirements of complex simulations, youre simply better off with a 64-bit system because, as a rule, the address space is large enough in contrast to 32-bit systems, where you quickly reach the limits. My solution to this has been the VRInsight MCP combo on one hand and a touch screen on the other. There are a few isolated flaws, but in view of the huge complexity of the add-on they should not be overstressed. This New Generation has a few years under its belt now, and the overhead panel really doesnt look exactly super-modern to put it mildly. And after all, the community is made up not only of pilots with virtual type ratings and hardcore simmers who plan and execute their flights with great dedication and knowledge, but also of many with an aesthetic inclination who frown at sludgy textures or mushy pixels and complain if exterior features such as pitot tubes or antennas are missing.
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