Theres no pus in milk dumb ass. All vegans are extremists? After treatment, most cows experience a prompt and speedy recovery. AI helps stop the spread of disease and it allows better genetic selection and mating. Football is an activity that uses a ball. The cows are fenced in, but when they get out they arent running away. Im glad you take care of your cows, but I believe you may be in the minority. Some of the commenters here: RUDENESS. I don-t want to drink pus in milk. So pus is not actually asymptomof mastitis. Or maybe its weird that vegans arent dying from malnutrition. I mean there must be some truth to it right? Mastitis is basically an infection the cow gets in her mammary system. There are several former dairy and other animal farmers who have quit the business and become vegan. The problem is that many of our cows are not healthy. I have lots of respect for Dairy farmers. It can be a debilitating, even life threatening infection if not treated properly and promptly. Im sure at your farm they are. The same applies with dairy cows; if they arent healthy they arent producing as much milk as they could be. It would be bad business for farmers not to treat them well. The abuse is being done by the activist themselves. We all know the benefits you enjoy ($$$$$$$) from your mutual relationship with your cows. Raw milk can contain pathogens such as Campylobacter, E. coli O157:H7, Salmonella, Listeria and other bacteria. If there is no pus in milk why is there the need to have it regulated? When a cow is infected (Mastitis), greater than 90% of the somatic cells in her milk are neutrophils, the inflammatory immune cells that form pus. Just keep putting it off , No response to the above question? Is consuming these things gross,it just depends on how you want to spin things. A study published in the Journal of Dairy Science found that cheese made from high somatic cell count milk had both texture and flavor defects as well as increased clotting time compared to milk conforming to the much more stringent European standards. I read the article and understand what you wrote. Here is a wonderful link which shows these animals are well-suited for the farm, being herd animals and the lies of food extremists are simply untrue. The mammary gland does not produce any milk. I cant wait for you to tell me how delicious your steak and cheese sandwich was haha. Then it depends on the cellular concentration of pus. When it does happen farmers discard the milk. You may have no agenda but the dairy guy has the agenda to protect the dairy industry. That cow will stay in the herd for years. The study he uses to "prove" his case notes that the iodine used to clean a cow's udder is a good preventative practice and works effectively. So to what are these people referring? The average somatic cell count in U.S. milk per spoonful is 1,120,000. Other indications of mastitis may be abnormalities in milk such as a watery appearance, flakes, or clots. Reading this definition, one can almost understand why a person not familiar with procedures and practices on a dairy farm could be led to believe that there is pus in milk, especially after reading false statistics claiming widespread incidences of mastitis in dairy cows. When Ive gotten over the ahhh milk with give me allergy stuff, Im going to switch to lacto free milk which is what my partner occasionally drinks as he has ulcerative colitis. Cultures like the Massai practically exist on milk, and heart disease and osteoporosis are non-existent. The dairy guy has explained the immune response well. Cows that have mastitis are separated from the milking herd so their milk is separated from the milk that leaves the dairy. Those who deny this invariably fall back on cliches (only calves should drink cows milk) or rely on falsehoods like the pus myth. Im friends with many other dairy farmers and they love their cows just like I do, plus they are family farms also. I am hoping to discuss farm size in a future post. A hero for farmers and the working class. Why is it ok to do this to another species when its not healthy or beneficial to either the cow or consumer? Mastitis will cause actual pus due to infection. Hi, Thanks, for commenting! Im rooting for you! While cows do get infections in their mammary system that causes flakes and clots, it is a bit of a stretch to call these symptoms pus. I can argue those facts, but the simple point is that white blood cells are cells, and not puss. Dairy cows must be forcibly impregnated (for humans wed call that rape) in order to lactate like any mammal. America consumes the most dairy in the world, yet America also has the most people diagnosed with osteoporosis, by the way long time vegans dont get osteoporosis like dairy consumers. (more here). Its hard work and Cows dont take the Weekends off, so its a 24/7 , 365 days a year job. Although the viral image did show a container full of blood-contaminated milk, the assertion that milk from cows normally contains blood and must be whitened prior to commercialization is false. However I think dairy farms are unfairly lumped in with poor practices other livestock industries. As Ive often said, An assertion is not a fact. Somatic cells do not equal pus. Some day you will be looked upon with the shame of any slave owner. If you care about their well-being there are ways that you can contribute. Ok, Ive read all these comments and see there is a far right and a far left. Ridiculous isnt it! We use a natural remedy with vitamins that helps boost the cows immune system so they can fight the infection naturally. Your PETA claim is silly and bogus as they are in no way the official standard bearer of animal rights; in fact many animal rights folks as you like to call em, are opposed to PETA. They just want to to fall for fallacious thinking, in this case an availability heuristic which meaning that media prevalence doesnt equal actual prevalence. Somatic just means body. Just as normal human breast milk has somatic cellsmostly non-inflammatory white blood cells and epithelial cells sloughed off from the mammary gland ductsso does milk from healthy cows. Maybe youre the DUMBASS if you believe what a dairy farmer says. We make decisions with the best interest of the animal in milk because on farms we realize we have a symbiotic relationship with the animals and nature. It also softens and moisturizes the teats to make sure they do not get too dry. Since pus contains white blood cells, anything that contains white blood cells is pus. The average somatic cell count in a spoonful of milk in the US is over one millionwhich equates to an average of around 1 drop of pus in the average glass of milk. How is it that you think I can better contribute to their wellbeing other than opposing what you do? On the other hand, why dairy industry tells us that milks is good and safe that is very clear. Copyright AFP 2017-2023. myth that is nearly always pushed by people who want you to stop drinking milk . what happens to the male calf Markets change. Lets be real, I wouldnt farm if I didnt LOVE cows and the consumers who enjoy our produce. You also need vitamin D and look theyre all in milk. Im very glad this, article cleared things up. This goes along with your question on how many calves a cow will have. Humans are evil. Anecdotes =/= data, I dont mean to sound like a smarty, but with that logic, wouldnt that mean that your body is full of puss! Actually China traditionally didnt consume milk and they were healthy and lived long. I was vegan. Pathogens are microorganism such as bacteria that make us sick. You say, pay attention to the sources of the articles you read as they may be biased and what do they have to gain? No harm? The bull in the wild will breed her right after the calf drops. The calves are separated from their mothers, who cry for their taken children until they lose their voice. Bob did you even read the link I recommended? I knew it couldnt be true when I heard it from a friend who seened it on u-tube. Is somebody lying? Apart from his illness not being set off my the lactose, he has not changes at all, he went through a period of no milk, now he uses lacto free products and feels good. An Emulator is a PC application that acts as whatever console is chosen. Back to the real world you make your farm sound like a lovely place to be enslaved, but what about the horrific conditions on industrial sized factory farms? So this milk is doesnt enter the bulk tank, or leave the dairy. Everyone is truly missing the point, is milk from another animal fit for human consumption? and I appreciate this article and the facts presented. pus in milk snopes. Filthy conditions, pus-filled infections, and kidnapped babiesthese are just a few of the many reasons why you should stop eating cheese right now.Cows are loving mothers who celebrate the birth of their calves and express anxiety and sorrow when they're separated. My vitamin d levels were critically low when I was already taking supplements. You can find plenty of non-vegan material actually showing you the reality of dairy farming also. Subtracting the 200,000 that could be present in nonmastitic milk and subtracting the non-inflammatory fraction (10%) leaves us with 21,600 neutrophils per ml, and multiplying that by the volume of milk in a cup (237ml) comes out to be about 5 million neutrophils per cup. increasing bad Cholesterol, antibiotics intake and more) as well as aesthetic aspects of Somatic/pus cells in milk, and have not been able to make myself consume Dairy again since (really unfortunate because I loved everything about it). Try googling it and you will find no such device. However it doesn't happen very often at all. I really appreciate it. @The Dairy Guy. Mastitis occurs when the white blood cells are released in the cows udder to fight the invading bacteria. Why would we make our cows sick so we can give 100% of them antibiotics? Not having a go, my preference is that animals live in their natural environment but yours sound positively pampered. We as humans have no business ingesting any form of animal protein. According to my calculations* based on USDA data released last month, the average cup of milk in the United States would not be expected to contain more than a single drop of pus. These cows were not abused or mistreated in any way whatsoever. Its nothing to be grossed out about. What ulterior motive does an anti dairy blog or something has.. they just dont want animals to be hurt, humans, or the planet. You sound like you are very dedicated to the well being of your cows, unfortunately, not all dairy farmers are. . Their milk is not sold, and does not leave the dairy. And yes vegans do struggle with malnutrition. By avoiding dairy I choose not to contribute to the exploitation of cows. Im sure there are other people with the same concerns. This level of disease is reflected in the concentration of somatic cells in the American milk supply. Forcing other people to do what you will not do is nothing but hypocritical. The udder sac is hard, tight, and firm. If there were any credible health risks involved, we would definatly know about them. Pus is a fluid that consists of dead immune cells, infectious material, and tissue. The same thing occurs with pus: it is possible for an ill cow to give milk that contains pus, but those cows are separated from the herd and their production is thrown away, the professor said. Last updated: I think its great if you provide a better environment for animals.. for something (milk) that world is not ready to give up. which is normal?. when eating meat. A pregnancy for a cow is similar to a human at 280 days. http://nutritionfacts.org/2011/09/08/how-much-pus-is-there-in-milk/, we apply an antibacterial teatprotecting dip after milking, Milk is good for you, according to a new study further evidence that the real thing is healthier than non-dairy alternatives | Andre Eger, Milk is good for you, according to a new study further evidence that the real thing is healthier than non-dairy alternatives | IMT, Milk is good for you, according to a new study further evidence that the real thing is healthier than non-dairy alternatives, Milk is good for you, according to a new study further evidence that the real thing is healthier than non-dairy alternatives New Viral Story, Milk is good for you, according to a new study further evidence that the real thing is healthier than non-dairy alternatives Viral News Bulletin. Milk is disgusting and horrifically unhealthy & cruel anyone who say different is selling you something (like milk? The goal of animal agriculture is to make money from animal products and slaughtering animals. Cows with better health traits will live longer than their herdmates. Another common thing in the dairy industry is genetic manipulation which is genetically manipulating the cow to produce more, unnatural amounts of milk. This leads to infections, which is, by definition, staph and thus pus. It is a proper word with a proper meaning and its not for you, me or anyone else to change or deny that definition; it is what it is, its good old PUS and its in your milk! Antibiotics cost $$$. For example, if you read an article on . Somatic cell count is a measure of white blood cells that are present in the milk. In the new NutritionFacts.orgvideo-of-the-day, I note that the antiseptics used to disinfect cow teats can provide a source of iodine, but have been found to boost the level of pus in the milk of cows with staph-infected udders. So human milk contains somatic cells as well, when the milk is healthy and more when they get mastitis. Then you look up dead white blood cells in milk yes they have dead white blood cells BUT no pus? When do they get to act like a dog or a cat or any kind of pet? The events listed on the calendar are currently up to date. You eat broccoli for a week and ill drink milk. They are animals just like our so call house pets. I love milk a lot. According to the USDA, 1 in 6 dairy cows in the United States suffers from clinical mastitis, which is responsible for 1 in 6 dairy cow deaths on U.S. dairy farms. We have the state milk inspector come to our dairy regularly to inspect our facilities to make sure everythings top notch. The comparisons youre making are plainly ridiculous. Maybe on a nice family run, small farm but not the huge corporate farms, Milk produced on larger farms has been proven to be cleaner and higher quality. We all remember the Humane Society of the United States investigation showing sick and crippled dairy cows being beaten and dragged into the California dairy cow slaughter plant en route to the national school lunch program, triggering the largest meat recall in history. All rights reserved. If the cow has mastitis, it is normal that when the time comes to milk it, blood comes out and milk takes on a pink color. Some connections should be made her by intelligent people. I am an ex vegan myself. Enter your email address to follow this blog and receive notifications of new posts by email. It is sometimes claimed that milk contains pus, but this is simply not true. Define pus. However, I think something important is being misrepresented. A lot of vegetables make me very, very sick. Hope youll watch and allow this on the website. If nature intended animals to never be used by humans, why did nature intend that humans would exist that would use animals for food, drink, and clothing? The subject matter depicted or included via links within the Fact Checking content is provided to the extent necessary for correct understanding of the verification of the information concerned. You try to breed the strong bulls to the weak cows to give them the strength they need. In the dairy industry, their milk and babies are stolen from them, all so that humans can consume an unhealthy "product." AFP and its logo are registered trademarks. If milk is so awful, My health should have improved since I stopped drinking it. Can milk replace water? In order for you to continue getting milk you would force the cow to get pregnant then take the calf away so you can profit off of her utter milk that was provided for her calf, not for you. Ive seen how disgusting it is. This article has nothing to do with veal, but the moron above didnt get their nasty milk fantasy validated so they are bringing up veal? Ive never known a dairy farmer use growth hormones, it wouldnt make sense to now that creameries label whether or not milk contains rBGH. There are many people who are animal farmers. When a dairy cow is infected with mastitis, more than 90 percent of her cells are the inflammatory cells that form pus. Those who have an ideological or commercial reason to want us to fear milk are trying to convince us that SCC and pus are interchangeable terms. They weird fact is that the better care we take of the animals and the earth, the better our yields and returns. Im sorry, but the blog of a dairy farmer, if thats what you actually are, is not a non-biased source of information when it comes to this issue. Activists want you to believe that farmers are abusing their cows, but its not common at all. Because of the mastitis epidemic in the U.S. dairy herd, the dairy industry continues to demand that American milk retain the highest allowable somatic cell concentration in the world. No cuz u want a burger ): ): none of you care do you? Here is an example of the logic you are using. . Im here now to apologise. While it's commonly believed that drinking milk increases phlegm, the science doesn't back up the belief. ), Bob you seem to be confused about somatic cells they arent puss. You dont know what it means to have a positive responses every now and then. Somatic cell count, according to the industrys own National Mastitis Council, reflects the levels of infection and resultant inflammation in the mammary gland of dairy cows, but somatic cells are not synonymous with pus cells, as has sometimes been misleadingly suggested. Theres loads of truth, Earthlings, Cowspiracy, Farm to Fridge (great, well-researched documentaries) and real undercover video of dairy operations available on youtube & Netflix. Let Bessie feed her kids with hers. Like all white blood cells, they fight infection so an elevated somatic cell count indicates that the cow is fighting some sort of infection, such as mastitis. In that way, organic farming is cruel to animals as you cannot give them anything to help them when they are sick. I assume they are trapped, fenced in and cannot just wander off if they have had enough.Do you ever wonder if keeping animals against their will may be morally wrong? Its only okay when you hand someone money to murder a sick animal for you. Maybe So every time the cow is milked, each quarter of the cows udder is checked by hand before the machine is attached. pus: [ pus ] a protein-rich liquid inflammation product made up of leukocytes , cellular debris, and a thin fluid called liquor puris . Consumers can rest assured that their milk does not contain pus AND that it comes from healthy cows!