Article about: Hi everybody i found this helmet while i'm surfing on the net. I helmet was made up of 12 percent manganese. Upload or insert images from URL. H.M.S. Regards, Paul. Royal Marine Light Infantry who died 17/03/1918 BELLAVISTA OLD BRITISH CEMETERY Peru '
Then, a man named John Leopold Brodie designed the first helmet model here in the United Kingdom. var fontstart = ''
2nd Bn. The sellers description may read, American WWI helmet or British WWI helmet. dailyinfo[7]=' Lieutenant Thomas Sydney Ough DEALY Australian Flying Corps who died 07/03/1918 STONYHURST COLLEGE BURIAL GROUND United Kingdom '
dailyinfo[4]=' Matrose Paul KURZKE Torpedoboot "G85" German Navy who died 04/03/1919 CANNOCK CHASE GERMAN MILITARY CEMETERY United Kingdom '
Everything for sale on WW2Helmets.com is completely legal to own, trade, sell and transport within the United States of America. I have had a good look at your helmet again and managed to find another one to compare,This is an American, Here is a British made helmet from the same period, look at the rim joint how clean the joint is put together, now take a look at the rim joints. The Brodie was the first modern military helmet developed by Britain. The unpainted shell was dipped onto a vat of olive paint. By knowing about a few small details the buyer will never make the mistake of purchase the wrong helmet. The series of number which follow the manufacture mark is a heating lot number used by the factory in the manufacturing process.
dailyinfo[11]=' Captain Charles Edmund WOOD Mentioned in Despatches Adjt. If anyone knows something about the helmet please tell me I'm very interested to here what you guy are going to say. This helmet, designated "Brodie's Steel Helmet, War Office Pattern" began fielding in October 1915 and gave the name of its inventor to an entire line of stamped steel helmets used by a large number of countries including Australia, Canada, New Zealand, and the United States (which adopted it as the M1917). dailyinfo[24]=' Captain Denzil Robert THURSTON Air Force Cross Airship Training Wing (Cranwell). I found a brodie helmet at an antique shop, its been painted black (going over several peace signs in black sharpie). Royal Army Medical Corps who died 22/02/1919 NUNHEAD (ALL SAINTS) CEMETERY United Kingdom '
The British effort to do so would result in the Brodie.
What pattern of helmet is this, and given the unusual markings, is it a valuable relic, or is it some fantasy piece suitable to be stripped and restored to issue green? By 1916, Brodie helmet . These have some 115716872255 100% refund policy on all items returned within 30 days. Colloquially, it was also called the shrapnel helmet or Tommy helmet, and in the United States known as a doughboy helmet.
FOR SALE! By this time a number of additional changes had been introduced to the rim design and the helmet was now known as the Mark I. dailyinfo[30]=' B/469 Worker Charles BARLOW Australian Munition Worker who died 30/01/1918 NORTH SHEEN CEMETERY United Kingdom '
Discussion board for World War 1 reenactors. View detail. In total approximately seven and a half million Brodies were produced by the British by the time that the First World War came to an end in November 1918. : Brodie helmets. Thank you for your reply. The helmet was painted a camouflage mix of green, blue and orange, though a variety of alternative colours were also introduced for use in different theatres. MSA. Ones with three holes drilled over the ears on each side didn't pass quality . dailyinfo[10]=' 14780 Member Ida Styles HUGHES (Oxford) Womens Royal Air Force who died 10/03/1919 OXFORD (ROSE HILL) CEMETERY United Kingdom '
Thanks Leon21. $3,000. Royal Air Force who died 24/02/1919 LINCOLN (NEWPORT) CEMETERY United Kingdom '
Fully restored with river gravel finis, M16 LW transitional helmet. The design was esentially the same in WW2, but there are a number of specific differences between the two and once you recognise these differences, such as the width of the brim (wider in WW1), you find you can tell one from another very easily. Colloquially, it was called the shrapnel helmet, battle bowler, Tommy helmet, tin hat, and in the United States the doughboy helmet. Results 1 to 3 of 3 blue brodie helmet(or not) identification. dailyinfo[20]=' 10259 Private Charles BUCHANAN 1st Bn. Nearly three million of these M1917 helmets were produced by the time that the war ended in November 1918, clearly indicating the importance of an effective military helmet for the American armed forces going forward. The buckle and loop clamps of the initial issue of this chinstrap were painted green. When the helmets are viewed side by side it is easy to see why so many people confuse one for the other. 5min video no sound date 1918 Military helmets manufactured at a factory in USA. Category. Powered by Invision Community, (In no particular order)
Next to this code there are a series of numbers. One of the main purposes of it was to essentially allow the head to breathe and sweat inside the steel cap. In the years after the end of the war the American Infantry Board tested a number of new models, but each of these were deemed to not mark any real improvement on the earlier design.
dailyinfo[21]=' L/32287 Driver John Frampton GAZE "O" Bty. Probably the most recognised piece of kit from the Second World War is the British tin helmet which was also used in a variety of forms on the Home Front. Few military helmets that have ever been manufactured are as iconic as the Brodie helmet. It seems to happen frequently.
dailyinfo[2]=' 8020 Serjeant Charles POOLE "C" Coy. dailyinfo[20]=' 10259 Private Charles BUCHANAN 1st Bn. That's interesting that he was a staff member, because staff members were asked to volunteer to help in fire watching duties, with miles of corridors and hundreds of offices to check. 3rd Bn.
It continued in use through the relatively peaceful years of the 1920s and when war loomed again in the late 1930s it was still in use.
WW1 Brodie Helmet - posted in Fallout 4 Mod Requests: Has anyone considered making a WW1 Brodie Helmet for Fallout 4? FOR SALE! It was owing to its shape that the German forces on the Western Front began to refer to the helmet as the Salatschssel or salad bowl. The constant handling a helmet would receive in the field would compress the saw dust finish. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account. before , possibly made by oneof the allied countries. This is what so many collectors need to restore an original British WW2 or American WWI Dough Boy helmet to wearable or even presentable condition. and 34th Coy. Accordingly, the American government purchased hundreds of thousands of Brodie helmets from the British as a stop-gap measure. WW1 US AEF Unit Flashed Brodie Combat Helmet & Liner - $612.65. It was also used regularly for cooking or heating up food, though the practice was discouraged, as over time it made the metal more brittle and the helmet less effective at protecting the wearer if he was shot in the head. I bought aBrodie helmet and I'm not sure from witch war or time the helmet is from. SEVER CEMETERY EXTENSION, ROUEN France '
It was made of mild steel originally, but this was quickly dispensed with and a harder type of steel was introduced alloyed with manganese, a mixture known as Hadfield Steel after its developer, the English metallurgist, Sir Robert Hadfield. dailyinfo[15]=' SS/342 Able Seaman Henry George SMITH (RFR/CH/B/5534). dailyinfo[29]=' Oberleutnant zur See Axel Carl Ludwig VON SCHOENERMARCK S.M.S. $150-300 Information & Special Terms Internet Premium : 20% Participation Requirements: Valid Credit Card required for bidding approval Payment Options: Visa, MasterCard, Discover, American Express, Check, Money Order, Wire Transfer, and Cash Visa MasterCard Discover American Express Payment Instructions . This helmet was called The Helmet, Steel, Mark I but is also sometimes referred to as the Brodie steel helmet or the Brodie Mark I helmet. The Brodie helmet, called Helmet, steel, Mark I helmet in Britain and the M1917 Helmet in the U.S., was a steel combat helmet designed and patented in 1915 by the Briton John L. Brodie. Hi, thanks for your reply. helmets which have a wide range of different paint colours and textures, most of these new helmetswere made in early 1941. 4th Bn. 5th Bde. The following is an identification guide for vintage military helmets of Spain. This used brass case is approximately 75 mm diameter and is marked with a 1916 manufacturing date. Royal Engineers who died 31/01/1919 COLOGNE SOUTHERN CEMETERY Germany '
Thus, in one guise or another it shaped the design of military helmets all over the world for much of the twentieth century. Royal Horse Artillery who died 16/03/1917 VARENNES MILITARY CEMETERY France '
I have never seen one with a leather liner like this, it is spiralled around the entire helmet. Irish Guards who died 18/03/1916 CALAIS SOUTHERN CEMETERY France '
Both the British and American helmets have marking stamped into the steel on the underside of the helmets skirt. He was on guard duties mostly on the rooftops of parliament apparently with Churchill quite a lot. Hi, I recently found my Step-dad's Father's WW2 Mk.1* Brodie. Now I'd be too bloody lucky if it was a Brodie - but it is interesting nonethless. Good to see that copper rivetswere used. loop/lug was first used on the British MKI* and MKII helmets. The story, for many years I wanted a bog standard WW2 Cdn pattern helmet for my collection, mainly a display piece. Frank Harrison EDINGER Army Chaplains Department who died 26/02/1918 HOLLYBROOK MEMORIAL, SOUTHAMPTON United Kingdom '
Paste as plain text instead, The helmet istself is a Mk.1* but i have looked and cannot find any manufacturer stamps on either the helmet or liner/strap. The helmet is an American M1917 made for the American Expeditionary Force, but very few made it to, The stamp mark on the helmet looks like ZC 3 which is thought to belong to the Edward. Lincolnshire Regiment who died 05/03/1916 CITE BONJEAN MILITARY CEMETERY, ARMENTIERES France '
2nd Bn. dailyinfo[2]=' 8020 Serjeant Charles POOLE "C" Coy. used by someone in a fire department role, maybe a works fireman. OPB Production increased rapidly in 1916 and by that summer over a million units had been produced. It is very hard to tell from the photo. Brodie Steel trench helmet Identification marks Remembered Today: 1081780 Sapper Bedford Stanley LONG "D" Coy. dailyinfo[4]=' Matrose Paul KURZKE Torpedoboot "G85" German Navy who died 04/03/1919 CANNOCK CHASE GERMAN MILITARY CEMETERY United Kingdom '
New Zealand Engineers who died 13/03/1918 ST. POL COMMUNAL CEMETERY EXTENSION France '
Helmets and Headgear, Shortly after the US declaration of war in April of 1917 the US ordered around 400,000 helmets from the British for use by, the American Expeditionary Force. dailyinfo[3]=' 45 Gunner HAZURA SINGH 31st Mountain Battery Indian Mountain Artillery who died 03/03/1920 TEHRAN MEMORIAL Iranm '
Should I get a replacement liner and chinstrap or just leave it as it is? dailyinfo[18]=' 6422 Private Charlie GILBERT 4th Coy. the corners been cut off, can't make out the shape in the photo. I'm reading about them constantly and have never seen a comparison or "Idiot's Guide". Me and a mate found. He was in his early forties when the war broke out and he turned his attentions to developing a military helmet along the lines that the French had just produced with the Adrian helmet. dailyinfo[26]=' Chaplain 4th Class The Rev. Royal Warwickshire Regiment who died 12/03/1918 ST. var daym=mydate.getDate()
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Adrian Blake takes a look at collecting such helmets and the huge range and variety that were in use. One is stamped 1938 in the 'furniture' and is either RAF blue or a police issue type. View detail. I find the M1 an excellent helmet when properly adjusted. Simultaneously, though, the administration of Woodrow Wilson ordered the production of an American-made helmet. Royal Engineers who died 31/01/1919 COLOGNE SOUTHERN CEMETERY Germany '
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. Thanks for the info lads. dailyinfo[29]=' Oberleutnant zur See Axel Carl Ludwig VON SCHOENERMARCK S.M.S. Specification. dailyinfo[25]=' 262952 Private Archibald Stanley BURGNEAY 8th Bn. Failing this, simply search on this forum under Brodie and you should find a wealth of information etc.
Though I do not know the code for the manufacturers. Both helmet have a similar dome and similar skirt. Some developed nations such as Australia and Canada even continued to use it well into the 1990s. Pasted as rich text. Unfortunately the helmet was in a shed for many years so is quite rusted. Only a few very minor details set them apart from each other.
From left to right: A pair of clamped chin straps with male snaps for the parachutist M1 helmet and liner next to a pair of standard infantry chinstrap used from early 1950s to the mid-1970s. Please enquire in advance about our arrangements for telephone bidding. U.S. P17 chinstrap bail At the outbreak of WWII, the U.S. military .
Similarly other late entrants into the war such as Portugal relied on supplies of the Brodie to protect the heads of their troops. This was particularly the case when it came to trench warfare where shrapnel and debris rained down on soldiers heads from above. Your previous content has been restored. 3 days Left Gibson ES-330T Sunburst Electric Guitar. I already have two others. After the introduction of the M1 helmet surplus M1917A1. Both helmets are non-magnetic. A E MK I 1941 G.S.W. WW1 Brodie helmet liner and leather chinstrap which contains no harmful materials. It may have been refurbished by the Americans during the 1930s and had new mounts added, which they did to both British and American Helmets, if you can find a makers mark you will know for sure. dailyinfo[21]=' L/32287 Driver John Frampton GAZE "O" Bty. WW1 US AEF Unit Flashed Brodie Combat Helmet & Liner 374540440490 Royal Welsh Fusiliers who died 11/03/1915 FAUQUISSART MILITARY CEMETERY, LAVENTIE France '
A quick examination of an original example and the brush strokes can easily be seen. The helmet resembles an upside down dishpan or washbasin in that it consists of a bowl-shaped cap and a large uniform brim running around the entire exterior. ww1, field, identification, tag, a e wilson, 10th, ambulance. By Surely there is only one Great War Forum!!! Worcestershire Regiment who died 23/02/1915 LOKER CHURCHYARD Belgium '
Was wondering if anyone could give some more info on it. = Mine Safety Appliance Co - Pennsylvania. Here is an image ( sorry for bad quality) There are 3 letters painted on the front i think it could be either one of these combinations: He said it has a separate rim and a serial number of ZA57. A thick felt pad was fitted to the top of the skull interior to aid in cushioning against impact. Sign up for a new account in our community. Recently on another Great war forum, a collector asked what the FKS on the inside of his WW1 brodie shell meant.
dailyinfo[11]=' Captain Charles Edmund WOOD Mentioned in Despatches Adjt. I am also unsure whether he began workingin Parliament before or after the war, i will be able to tell you tomorrow though. I think it would be a perfect fit alongside the gas masks in the game, especially with the hype for Battlefield 1 and all. Royal Navy who died 15/03/1917 CHATHAM NAVAL MEMORIAL United Kingdom '
Colin is the man for Brodies but I think he might struggle with this one too. New user here. var dailyinfo= new Array(31)
It was in production already in the summer of 1915 when he was issued with his patent, but it would quickly evolve into a new design in the autumn as some deficiencies in the original were quickly removed and improvements were introduced.