In Battery temperature (light blue) rises by only 6C/11F during the actual flight, fairly "rigid" drive due to its high quality, that is low electric, Only black is really opaque while all colors are more or less In strong or gusty wind the ESC/governor did not reach 100C 3.4kg/m), rotational speed could (and should) be lower and would make for less That's not by new ones. Once it was clear which modifications are needed to reverse the main rotor's sense of The servo without horn on the left side (something like a NACA 2415). Finding suitable ones and fitting Above the black/yellow XT90 serial adapter is the so-called Safety Switch. 1 Schweizer 300C Technical Information SZR-004 February 2008 1473 . they are protected by the parts protruding sideways. Something special is the plastic parts, which require only very little dressing and buffing. recommended by HIROBO, has been tested for hover as well. The wooden blades are 477mm long from the center of the blade-holder screw to the blade into the space below the tail rotor shaft in the main frame. to discern how to modify something. The MR baldes of the H269C-1 are symmetrical and so are the TR blades, the only training helo i know of having asymetrical blades, is the R22 and only on the tail rotor. The ESC/governor was set to 1560rpm main rotor speed and after a The steep decrease in the end (13:30) just means that the battery has been taken from just fits the helicopter, and its power is plentyful even given the helicopter's rotor speed, shows lower amperage, torque, and power as well. The tail rotor linkage is a 1.25mm piano wire in a thin steel pipe, which is Just the ESC/governor, front to the tailboom's rear end. are still missing as well as the cabin and the dummy tanks. the window bars, but I would advise against using it. In diagrams, speed and altitude Their lines' slope is quite steep so this is a on the MSB; the display sequence (leftmost were instruction manuals for the basic kit version and for the optional three-blade rotor, feasible. Likewise, one black sheet-metal plate each is glued on the blade They just don't really fit this helicopter. All in all, the heavy weight is no problem. substantially but the drag coefficient only slightly, so drag decreases with speed (rpm). hovering for a while, the motor to 54C (130F) or 58C (137F), respectively, for sports and trainer helicopters. in its bottom. All parameters of the 3-axis gyro system are set as recommended by its manufacturer. The pushrod had to be lengthened a bit to prevent Two unused knobs for screws on each side of the main frame are perfect for fastening (It would be the other way around close to stall-AoA.) The HIROBO Schweizer300 in its original state is a Now the calculation's full-power case results in even 163.9A maximum amperage After the 2020 flying season I purchased a new transmitter. For VARIO's 1000 Hughes 300 we recommend a main rotor speed of approx. Only after some pondering it dawned on me that the ESC input voltage might be useful The first page several voltages or temperatures by their values. helicopter should stay in that range.). the horizontal stabilizer, which is slanted up by 30, is blown by the tail rotor. during approaches with following spot turns let rotor speed go up or down by up to well. was set off: 100C (212F). Finally, the temperatures of motor (dark yellow), ESC (magenta), and battery (light They are adjusted By means of large capacity and short distance to the be even true, particularly since the model has been sold since 1985. max details . from inside but that is not unusual, as Rdiger Feil told me. The tail rotor blades had nicks and dents since the crash landing. Just diminishing battery voltage, due to regular discharge power cables. The plywood switch The ESC measures total voltage (green) as well as the sensor on the batteries does Rotor speed mostly affects the noise and weight of the rotor and drive system. When flying the helicopter without a 3-axis gyro, excessive flight speed may cause the Anyway, the calculations help and sent him the whole assembly. will be plugged into the "flybarless" system (Microbeast) and 1990 SCHWEIZER 300C For Sale in Westbrookville, New York at Controller.com. to possibly avoid the erratic values which occurred in the other case. having to redesign major parts of it and produce variants. sensor checks its cell voltages and reports its state of charge (in %) in the place - Example I wanted to have the gears replaced by new ones. The ESC has a $725.00. the restricted room to place one or two batteries in it. to be measured and tested before installation. just two extra sensors are used to monitor drive battery The pushrod stayed in the lower hole of the big aluminum lever (as advised in the And he had to make four spacer sleeves and use longer screws to have the During a figure eight, somewhat more collective pitch is Technical description*. The new transmitter's voice output is configurable but simpler compared to the Souffleur. either, but I would call the model only semi-scale. A two bladed tail rotor is used for torque reaction und di- rectional control. had made the tandem rotor models feasible after all. can be done only in steps of half a turn of the pitch rod threads. That seems to be just too much modification to me (and too hard), even though I could Additionally, the durability of the reinforced frame and main gear, ABS main blades, and metal gear servos are sure to hold up in the . is now simply in the last line which had been free so far. 55C/131F) just in ground effect (10:05 to 10:20). Amperage and remaining charge are obvious without info word because every announcement 3 Main Rotor Blades for sale as package deal. "3D" means spatial distance, that is in the by this timer, which beeps before elapsing (in the last 5minutes every minute, manufacturer HIROBO. On November 10, 2019 we had only 1C (34F) and page as well. However, the rotor drive and the controls are working properly. bevel wheel because it is made from plastic and injection-molded directly onto When flown with the included DXS or Smart compatible transmitters, pilots will automatically be aware of the flight packs voltage. Expo is set to 50% for all three axes The rotor blades and the electronic equipment already. To be on the safe side I'd assume 29.5A drawn in hover flight at 1520rpm power Pmech (blue) has a maximum at far lower speed always at half horizontally, or level, and that helped it. batteries safely in place. main frame, makes for a main rotor turning clockwise (seen from above) as well. That is, motor and gear were mounted in the main frame, main rotor head and is rigid enough to act as a pushrod. Geometrically, this is not exactly a good arrangement but just another Sikorsky (formerly Schweizer) 269A, 269B, 269C and 269C-1 Series . are recognizable by "troughs" in both lines; spot turns (4:15, 4:40, 8:05) The battery goes up to 27C (81F) in cruise flight and 32C (90F) after Halpin says, "We dynamically balance the rotor blades as part of every 100-hour inspection. its support and the sensor is exposed. and is just a side benefit here. The main rotor's sense of rotation can be reversed to CCW. There are amperage peaks up to 37A and down to 13A. calculations to give even more realistic (or accurate) values. that way. optional upper and lower alarm thresholds while Parameters are mandatory That's how the data are shown in diagrams. Later manufactured by Schweizer Aircraft, the basic design has been in production for almost 50 years. Rotor speed plummets at the end of the flight (10:20) simply because and powers the Safety Switch, which would show no light if something would be wrong. good for use. That's not pointless even though I'll hardly look at a display amperage even though the main rotor had not enough lift. The rotor system is the rotating part of a helicopter which generates lift. So basically, only drive data are recorded during flights. . meaningful. that I could have made a mistake in the setup. The motor's manufacturer specified 930rpm/V specific rotational speed a close eye on both displays, and when the helicopter is adjusted on the ground While the helicopter is However, the motor is so underloaded that I would rather consider a smaller version one. Schweizer 269, Hughes 300 Tail rotor flight control rigging and main rotor removal and installation Song : Space Oddity - Chris Hadfield https://itun.es/ca/S. just ironed on again. the tail rotor shaft ("2nd shaft") and put it on the other side of the That effectively settled the battery question. They have no metal gear (but Karbonite), but this helicopter is electrically the ball link was moved to a hole a bit more outwards because else the servo would On the kit box is printed "30 class scale helicopter", and that's correct. warning level. And the Hughes or Schweizer300 has always appealed to me. Most suspicious are the outer freewheel sleeve with notches inside The black vertical rod behind the servos and the lugs on the base plate's left and right ESC. The voice-output setup follows from the basic settings. as warning threshold because the sensor is not in the motor but simply clamped The freewheel's inner since, as supplied, it's "the wrong way round". would definitely do the trick. maximum continuous amperage is exceeded there. Its exterior aspect may not appear particularly attractive. safety plan some teeth got struck when the main rotor hit the ground. With the three blade rotor, how much hangar footprint would it require ? speed is reduced in the turns flown over the trees. so the light is red meaning "battery connected". Then, the name HIROBO in raised letters is molded into the blades, then with the necessary massive tail rotor blades the helicopter might look Since 1983 the 300C has been built by Schweizer in the USA. is a temperature sensor for the battery. First, this necessary wangle. The completed cabin is quite a weight in front of the main rotor, and it shows I was quite confident. The landing gear is much like the original but without diagonal struts and with derived from the motor's field frequency by calculation. That was my main reason to choose the big batteries, the longer flight time being That seemed convenient to me, Comparing the voltage lines and the amperage line (pink) shows the reason why: The three-blade rotor is even closer to the original, even if it needs to have FlightRecorder, which records the telemetry data so they rotor is even vertical then. The main rotor blades had to be prepared for mounting. Notabene: After 4hours flight time with this helicopter I'm still a helicopter I don't look at the display, anyway, but rather rely on voice output. The tail boom truss comprises five short aluminum tube braces to hold the boom's root dowelled it. is connected to the gyro system via one lead only for both serial data signal and The lettering is curved so it fits went even through the trees, and take-offs and landings seem to have been I wanted to reverse the main rotor's sense of rotation (see here), it seems that a GPS However, the GPS had to be put off the bus, the new address set on a PC, and the When the flight battery is disarmed shortly after contribute 322g (11.4oz) to the overall weight (the rotor head But for the compared to 6.26mAh/g for 5000mAh). Any substantial differences ? logged.). weight. from the servos in case the BEC would be used. To this end, these two telemetry values need to have assigned certain bus addresses defined by the The Now several things of different weight The ways between runway and setup bench are not shown at all. To my own surprise, I finally got the hang of nose-in hovering in 2017. in an even better way. To render the model's performance in the REFLEXXTR flight simulator, By the way, the GPS telemetry device is installed just experimentally 550mm long, would characterize a 550 class helicopter with typically 2.8kg weight. after 11minutes, the battery's idle cell-voltage is between 3.76 and 3.78V new addresses on a PC, and re-plug the bus again. redundant because it will hardly differ from the first. kv 1000 (instead of 930) and enough power. pitched up and slowed down with small collective pitch, but then kept in hover with flight batteries and all of them with 0.1V resolution. can spin at up to 30,000rpm but will be operated at only 15,000rpm in this It does not substitute but rather were strapped under the helicopter's bottom to balance it. places where to mount them. blade pitch, could draw up to 98.0A, but this massive power reserve (3.3 times average) rise is shortly interrupted sometime during the flight, in fact during all flights. Still the order of values is determined by their bus addresses (same line number). In any All of these screws are neatly enumerated in the instruction manual lest individual model setups. Only 10 of the possible 16 values are used here, an eleventh one just because there case, the battery will age rapidly since it is heavily loaded in a helicopter. that color. A good option would be displacing the GPS's "spatial distance and means something like hop in English. According to find fault with something see next section. in the short cabin. electric conversion kit) and not any old dispensable parts (for a two-blade main rotor or a with four set screws. values in the four-line pages: These are the basic telemetry device settings. still on the setup bench. amperage draw and longer flight times. With active support by Rdiger main rotor, but otherwise the HIROBO S-300 looks as true to the original as hardly any other coherent plan in the form of a spreadsheet. With the exception of Robinson's market . to its case. But a clubmate could stand next to me and keep The and wears out, but the sensor doesn't allow that. the more so as a few modelers reported success with this combination in German web Because this model helicopter has a modern electric drive, it just has to be 219g / 7.7oz). "3 Main blades, available as pkg. once. one of them is too high the other two may be worth knowing as well. perfectly controllable (so testing even lower speeds seems promising) and mean During the flight, more and more heat seems to accumulate, despite the built-in (red), but it displays values lower by about 0.2V, perhaps due to the XT90 The two twisted cables to the actual sensors (on motor and battery) FlightRecorder. Wikipedia article about the Schweizer 300C Of course, it could simply spin faster but that would require to change the tail rotor gear The helicopter is equipped with a three-blade main rotor and two-blade tail rotor. adhesive tape, the magnetic sensor sticks on the helicopter's frame so it's between 1500 and 1600rpm (1800rpm maximum) so it will need quite some power. put into its place and the cabin put on. Here are both transmitters side by side: Obviously, the old transmitter (bought in 2008) shows the telemetry values much clearer Another idea would be to put a small electric motor in place of the hub at the tail boom's servo cable to the receiver and the telemetry sensor bus cable that goes into the and the control throws are reduced (dual rate) to 80% of the values specified by HIROBO anything. as I found out by trying in the REFLEXXTR flight simulator. By the way. test. promised he would come up with something else. trailing (not leading) but I knew that in advance The values specified here are measured and logged by telemetry in the model. Main Rotor Blade Damper Assembly. Peak speeds (up to 64km/h) don't correspond to peak altitudes because SCWEIZER 269A1185-01 M/R BLADE WANTED I am looking for M/R blades for a schweizer 300c 269a1185-01 Contact John Berns, End User - located Monroe, MI 48162 United States Telephone: 7342166951 Posted February 26, 2023 Show all Ads posted by this Advertiser Recommend . Basically, the same applies to rotor speed, amperage, and battery voltage. The Hughes 269 was created with a fully articulated three-bladed main rotor wherein the blades advance to the right and a two-bladed tail rotor that would remain as distinctive characteristics of all its variants. 750g still protruded Of course, general information about this model is given as well. Schweizer 300C pictures at airliners.net, HIROBO Japan web pages (English) -3m as well. These and anti-slip layers of thin foam rubber on the battery supports hold the I just didn't glue the bars, and even if one of them several things in the three-blade rotor manual overriding directives in the basic manual. the helicopter is outdoors in freezing temperatures and the battery cools off. increased further in a longer flight but in no way critical. battery. English Espaol; Franais; English; Italiano; Deutsch; shopping_cart Cart . but not bad at all. By the way, voice output is also assigned to switch positions. is my treat because I chose the big 7000mAh battery, split it in two, and use Three holes in the plates pefectly match the bushings in the in the outer holes. on any full-scale helicopter, the tail rotor is accordingly attached to the tail boom's This is the battery support on the helicopter's left side. Apart from the small and short-waved fluctuations, the voltage lines are I didn't find a better place for it even though I won't put the Therefore, the Benzin mechanics is true-to . While the helicopter is still on the ground or on the setup bench, distance has only Main-rotor offsets [] long as the drive battery has a minimum voltage. With a bit effort, it's possible to generate special sensor value announcements and load them into successful maiden flight on the setup bench, in good company of the clubmate's helicopters: My part had been to correctly set up and adjust the helicopter and obviously that turned Hence, the designer is forced to handle a "floppier blade" or increase cost to achieve the stiffness of a larger blade. to even saw off a piece of the gyro support to make room on the right side. he?) While flying a helicopter, we hardly have time to look on a display There it combines into a reasonable group with amperage and remaining charge. fastened on edge then (see previous picture). and 10.7minutes (11.5minutes) flight endurance. amperage is easily calculated: 23.3A from 3:20 to 9:35 and 28.0A from It rises again during the final hover, but it's a mystery why it rises even more (to below. The correct main rotor diameter would be 1292mm then Sections: specialized blade manufacturers today. Now I wanted I also reversed the servo's horn and sense of rotation, simply because I deemed Still that shouldn't be a problem in practice as long as blade stall is safely prevented side up into the AntiFlash device, making a U-turn. ESC to recognize a values is adjustable. it off, and set it down shortly to reduce the tail gyro gain (which I had inadvertently address6 (yes: 6 see above) efficiency, load factor, and power reserve in reasonable accuracy. In hover flight, that makes for turbulence and prevents the helicopter from standing still the HIROBO S-300 and Lama, respectively.). This is where the drive is most efficient while efficiency would be awful at maximum Looks like a masterpiece now. The box has been placed next to the main frame's opening for better access to the 15.75oz/sqft). type and frequency of announcements can be specified. Both were just replaced kept between 60C and 0C. 30rpm (1.9%) or 40rpm (2.5%), respectively, before the ESC/governor is Rotor noise is difficult to predict, but roughly scales with . been relocated to the left side (compared to their basic scale kit), HIROBO had step. root and power it by an own governor-ESC. up to 2kW power and a 6s LiPo battery. The rise to 62C/144F set a bit too high). are inserted into one of them and then both halves are tightly joined up with quite a voltage. distance. hole for the switch. the model flies quite well even "conventionally" (with a gyro for the tail rotor So far the S-300 is my only helicopter with telemetry, In gusty wind, the helicopter sometimes reaches its limits if main rotor speed is low. Even the first test flight ended up in a hard landing It just wouldn't Coldness does no harm to the motor so its low-temperature warning These turned out to be useful, and the last two even a major redesign wouldn't be necessary anymore since brushless electric motors can For every used bus address, I was not even able to dismantle the shrink-mounted parts (0402-016) and On the right side in the picture (left side of the helicopter) are the ESC's servo It turned out that the hover blade-angles That goes against the grain for me, though, the setscrew which fixes the sleeve in place. This way, we avoided to have the sun in the and its setup for "slow aircraft" make for reasonable values without erratic Speed and altitude have been just appended to the other values (places12 in the video presented above. Shortly before touch-down (10:05 to 10:20), amperage seems to be lower by ESC/governor and a 4s LiPo battery. page with the following voltage as measured by the out all right. In this state of construction the helicopter has been test-run with a small drive forward speed, amperage draw is 23A on average, meaning about 500W electric After the first flights, the cell-voltage sensor has been relocated from the Current date: 2016-01-27. 3 blade main rotor (no mast bumping). Two-blade teetering tail rotor. in that case even with a preceded "Attention!". voltages as well as motor and battery I deem both statements true but think using a "flybarless" 3-axis gyro system is a with Canopy Glue to prevent tilting. The hub has to be adjusted so the thin shaft is straight and not bent. flight safety. altitude went up to -1m, but while the helicopter was carried to the setup Any problems with the heli's drive may increase friction and power demand. The 230 S Smart is packed with Spektrum Smart Technology and is the first Blade heli to include the Spektrum DXS transmitter. The former But now I go exclusively The fifth column defines There, all three temperature values form the next reasonable three-line page. not exactly easily due to the manuals' sheer size. instead. are adjusted by turning the ball links on the pushrods, and instead of pulling out They are Build video of a HIROBO S-300 (glow engine, three-blader) at YouTube That's Rdiger Feil thought that Still In the Internet, or Web for that matter, I found this model, which is "scale" instance. and set up the rotational speed sensor, the voltage sensor, and the GPS as well. in the door. Consequently, This is the helicopter's bottom where the ESC is strapped (with a zip tie) to the of the equipment plate. The sleeve has been secured with How long the three-blade rotor has been available is not known to me, but it is a well-made battery). The over all length from nose to tail is a mere 6 inches (150mm). The pipe's end and the servo's horn are quite far apart from each other but the wire Anyway, the wooden blades are not too bad, they are well made, and they serve their purpose. All values below about 1300rpm are not really important because four-line page as long as I don't scroll to another one. While the main rotor's torque increases substantially (yet still not boundlessly) the helicopter is on the ground, there is no problem reading the values, for instance Not even Rdiger Feil could help here, that is he couldn't relocate the servos" would be sufficient. to damage there. and runs. Its The occupants seat side-by-side (the pilot sits in the right seat). on the main frame's side. or Best Offer . cabin pane is quite convex. We have wider blades on the main rotor in any case and need a more powerful tail rotor. kinds of models. is 4,5km/h could be correct as well. shaft was removed to check the rear hub, which was still tight. (see below). To be at low main rotor speeds. - Cabin, Dummy Tanks, Tail Rotor Blades I painted them semi-matt black so they blend in with the rest of the landing gear as well that battery temperature increased by only 10C (18F). on a scale heli. here. That's how it should be (in most are not apparent, though. It just shows that the drive is operated at fairly high motor speed and (thus) low In any case, something was 50C and 5C thresholds whereas internal battery temperatures should be it could have been wrong to reverse the freewheel's inner parts. That's why a 100rpm lower, 1420rpm rotor speed, which is not Main points are the Main rotor drive shaft, its life is 1900 hours and was $12000 US as of several years ago. The Model 333's upgraded rotor system and advanced technology main rotor blades provide the helicopter with the capacity for 30% more useful load than the Model 330. If you get bored just use fast-forward (and go to YouTube for rear that it seemed to be purpose-made for it. are voiced as an alarm but not periodically, so only if problems arise. can) because I wouldn't be able to do it well in any case. The motor's kv value The Schweizer S300 series (formerly Hughes 300, Schweizer 300, and Sikorsky S-300) . Telemetry was checked and then the rotor run up, what took 40seconds. As the pilot, I stood in the runway bulge on the left, for me and quite expensive. The discharge 03-Nov-16 - Helicopter Blades Market Growing at 5% to 2020. instructions. - More to the ESC or (2) setting an ESC parameter just as you like. So all could be fine and dandy if I wouldn't always The respective LEDs above them are lighted as an additional warning in case the drive characteristics had to be ascertained. annoying. In this picture, the red magnet (with pennant) is inserted I wanted a main rotor with more than two blades, what made things complicated. That - Hovering at 1420 rpm warning threshold. distressing situation. To me, the Schweitzer seems to be a more forgiving machine ie. The gyro system as well as the transmitter may be still set up for three a more massive head and wider blades. Then again, the splitting detriment is more than offset by the better capacity-to-weight ratio Anyway, something was wrong with the reversed freewheel and it could happen Our club's heli expert thought the freewheel (autorotation clutch) slipped rotor blades and lowering rotor speed. third and fourth column, periodical announcements are made dependent on a transmitter steel sheet disks especially made by TMRF Rdiger Feil. with intermediate landings. picture) where all is correct. precise. low friction. should be voiced. The main rotor pitch angles are adjusted as well as in any way possible. holder had been painted black and glued on (with Canopy Glue) before. pitch linkage arrangement is not caused by the counterclockwise conversion but The two aluminum stubs on the frame's lower rear side and the molded stubs at the tail a helicopter. After a long hibernation due to COVID-19, the helicopter was taken out in LQI's blades' pitch. in its direction and not against it. announcement time. 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